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It's wrong to say the only affordable sources of energy are Coal and Gas. How could we know that? Nuclear energy has the potential to be 1000 times cheaper. We won't know what today's price really is until someone builds a modern factory making nuclear modules, redesigned in 2025. But we do know the fuel is so cheap as to be threatening "too cheap to meter" to the capitalist industry. Manufactured reactors could be built at about the same price as heavy diesel, and with fuel that's 1000x cheaper, and far less pollution or waste. The fossil fuel industry cannot compete so they distract us, as you say, with chaotic energy sources that cement demand for Gas. Wind and solar are like the guy who spins the roulette wheel. California has a casino called CAISO where speculators gather every afternoon to bet on when clouds will quench wind and solar farms. Frackers sell wee bits of gas at fabulous prices when Solar takes the day off around 4:20 pm, saving us from the manufactured emergency. Nuclear energy ruins the party, providing power 95% of the time except for scheduled interruptions-- speculators can't bet against that! Nuclear energy cuts down costs for consumers but is bad for fossil generators and utilities.

Mckibben only mentions nuclear energy in passing as "a side dish", if costs ever come down. He claims nuclear energy is a distraction, ironically "in the distorted infosphere of green-wash and spin we inhabit". McKibben is in the anti-nuke cult, and it's hard quit your religion.

The cult of anti-nukism has roots in goodness and generosity, as well as racism and fossil fuel boosting. They recite a mantra of whataboutism. "whatabout-the-waste, cost, proliferation". Such arguments are easy to refute in reality, but that doesn't change anti-nuke beliefs that are "beyond" logic.

When I was a teenager the arms race was really scary. President Reagan was building expensive and destabilizing weapons that could only be used in a surprise sneak attack on USSR. If USSR attacked first the weapons would be useless. Was the USA planning a sneak attack as in Dr. Strangelove? Billions of dollars suggested "Yes". I was surprised that once the Peacekeeper missile was complete, the Pentagon mothballed it. They didn't need it. Just needed to be paid to build it. A Boondoggle. I'm more alert to govt programs that exist only for the contractors now.

Given the immediate existential threat of climate collapse via mutually assured destructive nuclear war, stopping the arms race was the most environmental thing to do. PR experts at Sierra Club and other places decided that people weren't smart enough to be able to tell nuclear energy from nuclear bombs, and went full-court-press against anything "nuclear-".

Supporters of Oil and Coal found it convenient to amplify the anti-nuke movement, using Peace and Environmental grounds, rather than expose their anti-competitive agenda. Groups like RMI then dedicated to the "more efficient" use of coal. And FOE "Friends of the Earth" was funded with an initial $200k from the Oil company Atlantic Richfield's head. See Engdahl's _Century_of_War:_Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Orders for more.

McKibben cannot explain where the solar panels and batteries come from. They are NOT made with solar energy! Today they are made with coal, as no one can run industry on solar power. His focus on the grid is silly. Most of our energy demand is for buildings, and minerals, and transportation, which today is 0% supplied by solar.

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Rationalista's avatar

Very smart people can be very stupid if they don’t check the math on something they want to believe.

This includes me 7 years ago- I bought all this green stuff hook line and sinker. The thing that pulled me out of the hole was running the numbers on how many GW of nuclear plants it would take to remove a gigaton of CO2 per year (about 1000GW). I was astounded and realized that second that solar and batteries and e-cars have zero chance of “solving” the issue. This is in fact hard and it is an area full of people selling you a dream to get fat subsidy checks.

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