I think this also applies to battery energy storage systems as well. "Of course the sun doesn't always shine, um BATTERIES!!" it is also not BESS, wind and solar's fault that they are incapable of synchronous inertia and therefore are essentially incapable of the critical ancillary services that electricity grids need.
Not only that, but as the percentage of solar generation goes up, the amount of batteries needed and extra solar panels to keep them charged also goes up. California batteries now can support a few hours of stored energy, not enough to even handle overnight, let alone longer periods of overcast weather. If you have enough batteries to handle a few days of storage, you then need to deploy many times the number of solar panels there are now to keep those batteries charged.
It is even worse than that. After a huge amount of spending on utility-scale batteries, California still only has roughly 1.3–1.5 hours of coverage for typical summer nigh-time use.
This is copied and pasted from the comment I made on the last post here, because I didn’t get any responses yet. Maybe it’s just a stupid question and I don’t deserve any response, I don’t know I’m not an expert. Maybe I’m just an idiot.
Batteries are a problem.
OK, we need them for transportation, but they’re stupid in regard to infrastructure, there’s gotta be a better way.
Here’s a suggestion, I don’t have the expertise to work this thing out as well as it should be, but whatever happened to the idea of super conducting powerlines?
I’m a Canadian, so I have a Canadian perspective. What do you think the cost would be using existing technology to build a superconducting power line from Newfoundland to Vancouver. how much money could you make sending electricity from Vancouver to Toronto during Toronto’s peak hours of consumption, and then reversing that during Vancouver’s peak hours? What about if we tied the system into New York and LA?
The experiments I’ve heard about in superconducting powerlines, seemed to describe them as a cost-effective systems, but isn’t that compounded when we talk about peak hours going east west and back the other way?
I’ve never heard anyone talk about this factor. am I the only one to think of this?
Now let’s look at power generating systems.
Right now every community must have enough generating capacity to cover peak hours in their community. If we had an east west system, I think it’s pretty obvious we could probably cut back on our generated systems by maybe as much as 50%, how much money would we saving there?
If we had a system that could go around the globe I suspect we would only need 10% of the power generation systems we have today, what do you think?
I think this also applies to battery energy storage systems as well. "Of course the sun doesn't always shine, um BATTERIES!!" it is also not BESS, wind and solar's fault that they are incapable of synchronous inertia and therefore are essentially incapable of the critical ancillary services that electricity grids need.
Not only that, but as the percentage of solar generation goes up, the amount of batteries needed and extra solar panels to keep them charged also goes up. California batteries now can support a few hours of stored energy, not enough to even handle overnight, let alone longer periods of overcast weather. If you have enough batteries to handle a few days of storage, you then need to deploy many times the number of solar panels there are now to keep those batteries charged.
Indeed, reminds me of this upcoming webinar, everyone is welcome https://centreforinquiry.ca/the-renewable-energy-honeymoon/
It is even worse than that. After a huge amount of spending on utility-scale batteries, California still only has roughly 1.3–1.5 hours of coverage for typical summer nigh-time use.
Yes -- call it like it is, not like some people wish it were!
This is copied and pasted from the comment I made on the last post here, because I didn’t get any responses yet. Maybe it’s just a stupid question and I don’t deserve any response, I don’t know I’m not an expert. Maybe I’m just an idiot.
Batteries are a problem.
OK, we need them for transportation, but they’re stupid in regard to infrastructure, there’s gotta be a better way.
Here’s a suggestion, I don’t have the expertise to work this thing out as well as it should be, but whatever happened to the idea of super conducting powerlines?
I’m a Canadian, so I have a Canadian perspective. What do you think the cost would be using existing technology to build a superconducting power line from Newfoundland to Vancouver. how much money could you make sending electricity from Vancouver to Toronto during Toronto’s peak hours of consumption, and then reversing that during Vancouver’s peak hours? What about if we tied the system into New York and LA?
The experiments I’ve heard about in superconducting powerlines, seemed to describe them as a cost-effective systems, but isn’t that compounded when we talk about peak hours going east west and back the other way?
I’ve never heard anyone talk about this factor. am I the only one to think of this?
Now let’s look at power generating systems.
Right now every community must have enough generating capacity to cover peak hours in their community. If we had an east west system, I think it’s pretty obvious we could probably cut back on our generated systems by maybe as much as 50%, how much money would we saving there?
If we had a system that could go around the globe I suspect we would only need 10% of the power generation systems we have today, what do you think?
We need to have a stop at 90% campaign for renewables. At least before we get the $10/kWh battery